Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Hoping for a Hurricane

Whoop, my friends

Whoop! Times...they are a-changing.

I smell discontent in the air.




Yes, my friends, an all important 41st vote against Health Care Travesty.

Today marks the 1 year anniversary of Obama's inauguration. Does anyone feel better off this year than the last?

I think foremost that this is a message to President Obama that despite ramming his health care down our throats, "It's the economy, stupid."





I just hope the Republican party doesn't mess it up by ramming their religious crap and moral proselytizing in public law down our throats.

Republicans are the party of less government. Live and let live.

Be the party of Ronald Reagan once more.

Republicans, get out of the bedroom and stop worry about gay marriage. Let them be. Again, it's the economy, stupid.

We want Wall Street banking bonuses subsidized by our tax paying dollars to stop.

We want tax AND SPEND cuts. We have to balance our checkbooks. So should Washington.

We do not want to leave our children and grandchildren a legacy of insurmountable debt to bail out the likes of Chrysler which will probably fail anyway.

We want terrorists treated like terrorists--not civilian criminals--and we want our government to do it's job and prevent such terrorists from reaching our soil despite terrorist's father's warnings and CIA intelligence.

Yes, the winds are changing. This mommy is hoping for a hurricane to come mid-term elections.

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You know I don't talk about politics often... however every once in a while I get fired up. Heh! I would love your comments. This blog has always welcomed differing ideas. I respect differing opinions and see it as an integral part of the democratic process. Besides life would be boring if we all thought the same. Just keep it respectful...

27 comments:

HappyAcres said...

Honestly?

All politicians are thugs. Obama and his enablers are the worst yet.

Consider the State as a gang of criminals and everything makes sense.

You did ask ;-)

Scout's Honor said...

Happy Acre:

Snort.

What an unique perspective.

Teehee

You are right. I did ask...

:) :) :) :)

Lori E said...

I'm Canadian. Our politicians are no better but I don't see how you guys would be better off with any other leader.
The mess was there when Obama started a year ago. It was there for years and just got worse and worse.
Didn't Clinton have a budget surplus?
I don't think a year is long enough to fix what is wrong.
As for the health care we have had it here for years. Is it perfect? Not at all but you can be sure you will never go without care for lack of money. You will never have to mortgage your home or lose it all together to pay hospital bills.
What I don't like is the misinformation that gets put out there by those wanting to discredit the current party. Outright lies and fear mongering by people like those who said Haiti deserved what it got because they are in partner with the devil. That being said one would have to say the same about the Katrina victims too. Scary way of thinking.
Don't get me wrong. As a non American I have no right to impose my views on your politics.
It is just my observations.

sharalyns said...

Amen!

Beki said...

To be honest, we still don't have a lot to go on. Considering who else was running, Obama was the best for the job.

That being said, I think it will literally take decades to fix the economic mess. I wonder how long it took Texas to recover when Bush left the governor's office. I suspect it took quite a few years. It took us several years to get into this mess, it's going to take a long time to get out of it.

Is he doing it in the right fashion? I don't know. You have to start somewhere.

Yes, we need good health care, but we need to fix the rest of the economic mess too. The US isn't the only country whose economy is suffering. As you know I have significant issues surrounding health care due to my family situation. I don't particularly care for the don't get sick and if you do die fast plan for health care. That isn't a plan.

As far as terrorism goes, I am a fence sitter. I think that yes, we need to be harder on them, and to actually oh.. investigate issues that are brought to the attention of authorities.

That being said, I am concerned about a lot of things I read on the news as it appears that our civil liberties are being abused by these same rules that are supposedly there to make us safe.

You can legislate all you want, but in the end, is it really helping? I can't honestly answer that. I think it was Franklin that said something to the effect that the person that trades freedom for security, they will get neither. It's something to consider.

YMMV of course.

Dumblond said...

I don't really have an opinion one way or the other. I've never been political. Unless it affects me in the here and now...meh. Whatever.
I have always loved hearing your political opinions when you choose to put them out there. Any political talk I do hear (which is very seldom) tends to lean toward Democratic so knowing someone (as much as I can say I know you) who is on the other side of the aisle is refreshing.
I'm glad that you are excited about Mass. State's vote.

Houstonwino said...

This was about a Dem who didn't campaign much and did so poorly when she attempted it. Considering that a large majority of Brown voters were for a BETTER health care bill that the one the GOP has ruined, and even strongly support the public option, imagining this was a shift back to the politics that have done so much damage to the country I grew up in is wishful thinking. Why anyone would wish for that is beyond me, but it seems some do. As for Brown, this is a teabagger with the IQ of a fencepost who was elected by an overwhelmingly progressive constituency venting their anger because Dems have not gotten enough done. If he tries to be the anti-choice, anti-rights, bizarro-world dwelling teabagger that he's always been, he loses that seat in the midterms. If he moves to the center he loses the teabaggers and the election. He is just keep a Dem's seat warm for a very short time.

You asked. :)

Soliloquy said...

I think Obama got a little too comfy a little too soon.

THANKFULLY.

Gave the country a chance to WAKE UP before it was too late.

Erin said...

I don't agree with you at all, but I'll save that for my own blog. To each their own. :)

Incidentally the wall street bailout (the same one that afforded those guys those huge bonuses) was under the last guy. It was voted on and passed BEFORE the election.

(The only reason I bring that up is because Obama keeps getting blamed for it and it happened before he was elected)

Scout's Honor said...

oh, Wow! I did ask. :) We seem to have some very differing opinions. Cool!

On all your comments on the economy:

Saying the mess was there before he got there is slightly inaccurate. That mess did take years to make, decades, and yes, in some part to Clinton too. Please do not forget, a major downturn in the economy occurred at the end of Clinton's term before Bush took office. Then there was the cost of 9/11 and rightly or wrongly the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars. However, I believe a huge portion can be attributed to people taking risky subprime loans and feeling entitled to homes whether they could afford them or not. Then there were the credit cards—I’m guilty too. The entire U.S. was spend, spend, spend which started in the so-called surplus years that were built on sand.

So , although true, Obama was not president, he was a member of the Illinois then U.S. senate and very active in politics to include the Democrat majority in the Congress from 2007…well before the bail outs began.

If we look back further, we can also point to the Community Reinvestment Act, a law passed during the Carter administration. The CRA, which was amended in the 1990s and this decade, requires banks—which had a long, distinguished history of not making loans to minorities—to make more efforts to do so. From Newsweek: "For decades, starting with Jimmy Carter's Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, there has been bipartisan agreement to use government power to expand homeownership to people who had been shut out for economic reasons or, sometimes, because of racial and ethnic discrimination. But it led to tremendous pressure on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- which in turn pressured banks and other lenders -- to extend mortgages to people who were borrowing over their heads. That's called subprime lending. It lies at the root of our current calamity."

{continued...}

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

On all your comments on the economy continued:

Obama has been quoted as saying, ”Sub-prime lending started off as a good idea. Helping Americans buy loans who previously couldn’t afford to.” He said this in 2007 at the height of the crisis. No sir, subprime mortgages were never a good idea. Never. If you couldn’t afford it before, tricky financing still doesn’t negate that eventually the piper must be paid. Period.

Yes, under Bush and again a Democratically run congress Fannie and Freddie were bailed out. So was AIG since they backed so many corporations that if they failed, everyone failed. These institutions were so far reaching. Honestly, I think we should have let them all fail. We should have gone into a depression. It is needed to get people to sober up, start saving and stop spending what they don’t have, and realize they are entitled to nothing but hard work to get anywhere in this life.

And, yes, while congress may have voted before Obama took office for a part of the stimulus, it was Obama who signed it in to law. "On February 17, 2009, Obama signed into law the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, a $787 billion economic stimulus package."

Then 1 month later, he introduced the Public-Private Investment Program, which contained provisions for buying up to $2 trillion in depreciated real estate assets.

Then there was the auto industry bailout and cash for clunkers.

However it was under Obama's watch in March when they were allowed to hand out $165 million in bonuses. $165 of taxpayer dollars to reward idiots that got them in that mess in the first place and it was reported that from his own party with a super majority in the senate that Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Con) (who first denied, then admitted to amending the legislation to allow the AIG bonuses), received $160,000 from employees of AIG.

And what do we have to show for it, aside from insurmountable debt?

Unemployment has continued to rise to 10.1% (the highest in 26 years), and the "underemployment" rate rose to 17.5%. Yes, it takes time to recover, but it seems those numbers keep going south no matter how much tax-payer money they throw at it.

Also, I think it's funny that people that support Obama in general say "Wait. It takes years to recover from a financial recession," and yet, these are the same people who said we need to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq and it shouldn't take “so long” to secure, rebuild, and stabilize entire infrastructures, political and yes financial systems. Just a little hmmph there! Not to you guys, but to the irony in general.

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

On Healthcare:

As for Canadian health care, I am going to go with my old standby that if a Canadian Prime Minister deems the health care inadequate and comes to the United States to get care, something isn’t right. I am not saying our system is right either. Both need to be tweaked, but I don’t think government belongs in my health care. I do not want to wait weeks for ultrasounds and treatment from cancer. I prefer the research and innovation in the U.S. medical system that spurs the world.

And? I’ve been part of U.S. government run medical system before. We were in the Army. I had a baby without one ultrasound when the standard in the U.S. was 1-2. Not one because the Army/Tri-Care deemed it a waste. No AFP test either to know if my daughter might suffer from Downs/Spinal Bifida. Oh, yes, and a friend got the treat of going to a post on the East coast where they did not offer epidurals. Seriously. Didn’t offer them. This was only 10 years ago. I also had to wait for appointments and received a midwife rather than a doctor to deliver PB whether I wanted one or not. Nothing wrong with midwifes at all, but the lack of technology and choice was astounding. No thank you. I also don’t want my great-grandchildren to be bearing the cost. I am sure veterans can say the same about their care as well. Bureaucracy and saving lives does not mix in my view.

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

On Hateful Conservatives and Fear Mongering:

As for Haiti, just because some whackos say evil, vicious things does not mean they speak for the whole.

Pardon my American but Fuck Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson and the horses they rode in on. They are a bane. They do not speak for my party and have not for years. I think the left seize on these few whackos and label a whole party. I think most people who belong to a political party wouldn’t like to be classified by one member:

"See, Barack's been talking down to black people on this faith-based...I want to cut his nuts off." --Jesse Jackson, caught on microphone during a FOX News interview

"It's a new day. Communism is dead. It's even dead in Cuba. I hate to say it, it's dead." - Barbara Boxer, senator from California

Michael Moore says of Americans that "They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet ... in thrall to conniving, thieving, smug pricks..."

Bill Moyers says that Republicans are planning "the deliberate, intentional destruction of the United States of America."

"These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed." The POWs who said they had been tortured were "exaggerating, probably for their own self-interest…Never in the history of the United States have POWs come home looking like football players. These football players are no more heroes than Custer was. They're military careerists and professional killers" who are "trying to make themselves look self-righteous, but they are war criminals according to law." ~Jane Fonda on American POWs coming home from Vietnam

"I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease... He is an absolutely reprehensible person." -- USA Today Columnist Julianne Malveaux on Justice Clarence Thomas

"If there is... justice, he'll get AIDS, or one of his grandchildren will get it."
--National Public Radio's (NPR) Nina Totenberg on Sen. Jesse Helms (Seriously, she wishes disease on an innocent child?)

“I know it wasn’t rape-rape. It was something else but I don’t believe it was rape-rape."

-Whoopi Goldberg Defending Roman Polanski for drugging and raping a 13-year old girl.


Would you want any of these people to unequivocally speak for all liberals/Democrats? I know I wouldn’t and I’m not even a Democrat. I know they don’t. They are the fringe. They are the rabble rousers as are the Rush Limbaughs and Pat Robertsons and Anne Coulters of the world. Vile. All of them.

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

Lori:

Heh. Woman, you aren’t imposing anything. :) I am super happy you responded. I wanted a discussion. I got one. If I wanted only agreement, I would have shut off comments. Now that would definitely not be a Scouty thing to do, eh?

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

Sharalyns:

Hollah, girl. :)

Can I get a hallelujah? Heh.

I knew we'd be thinking similar thoughts. Being a president should never be comfortable! Ever.

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

Bekki:

I agree you have to start somewhere but where was this patience when Bush was in office I wonder? I am so glad you agree the economy is so important. Without it, any reform in the health care forum is unaffordable. I don’t believe either in “the don’t get sick or die plan either,” but that is very atypical. However, the United States already spends twice the amount on health care as any other country. Fact Check.org says “President Obama has repeatedly said that a health care overhaul "will be paid for” and that he won’t sign a bill that isn’t deficit-neutral. But neither the House bill nor the Senate HELP Committee bill meets that criteria. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office and Joint Committee on Taxation, the House bill as introduced would add a net $239 billion over 10 years to the deficit, while the HELP Committee bill racks up more, $597 billion over 10 years.” We cannot afford that.

As for civil liberties, I wonder what the mother and widows of the victims of 9/11 think of civil liberties? How about the people on the plane with the underwear bomber. As a mother, I’d rather loose a little liberty to keep my babies safe…any day, any time, and anywhere. Period.

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

Dumblond:

Rock on, my friend. I will gladly be your voice of dissent.

I do feel I have a unique perspective. As a former military officer (and enlisted before that), conservative Political Science graduate from the very liberal UC Berkeley, as a mother, as a gay rights/gay marriage supporter, animal rights supporter and former vegetarian (Darn it, critters are too tasty and I’m chronically anemic) ardent supporter for more education funding, former PTA president,being a non-religious fiscal conservative…

well, I am a mixed bag for sure. you can't fit me in a box.

Fiscal Republican. Social Independant. Education bleeding heart liberal. Agnostic bordering on Atheist.

Overall though, I think nowadays, everything is seen through the perspective of my children’s futures:

What legacy do we want to leave behind for our children.

Scout's Honor said...

Houstonwino:

Hey you! Thanks for commenting. Yeah, Marth did suck, but really this is about complacency to me. The president and congress has had a clear majority and has spent the majority of the time spending or planning to spend more money whether that be bailouts or health care while the economy continues to go down the drain.

As for health care, don’t you think the Democrats have down a bang up job of ruining their own bill? They have a super majority for fracksake. Republicans can’t even filibuster and have definitely not been even included in the discussion. In the meantime, public sentiment is not on Obama’s side. Then you look at the seedy Nebraska deal where they get all the benefits and none of the bill and you tell me who messed up? The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that just 38% of voters nationwide favor the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That matches the lowest level of support yet. Fifty-two percent (52%) also think passage of the legislation will lead to a decline in the quality of care. This has nothing to do with Republicans and more to do with ramming ideas down the public throat that they simply do not want.

As for Brown, you say he “is a teabagger with the IQ of a fencepost who was elected by an overwhelmingly progressive constituency venting their anger because Dems have not gotten enough done. If he tries to be the anti-choice, anti-rights, bizarro-world dwelling teabagger that he's always been, he loses that seat in the midterms.”

Daaayaam. Snort.

Tell me what you really think. Heh!

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

Soliloquy:

Comfy isn’t the word. With a congress whipped shape by Pelosi and a super majority in the Senate, there have been no roadblocks to his vision and still little success with the economy or health care. He needs to take a step back and truly listen to what the people he represents wants—not his own agenda.

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

Erin:

Hi there! Thanks for joining in. I’ll go check out your blog. :)

As for blaming Obama, again, I refer you to my comment on economy. He did sign into law something he could have vetoed, yes? And there has been plenty more bailing out afterward. And he was part of the problem in the first place. He needs to be held responsible to his record as a Illinois state and U.S. Senator. It doesn’t all get washed away when he becomes president.

However, that said, it’s the end I am looking as and his vision of the future scares the ever living crap out of me as a mother. When terrorists are allowed on our soil because of intelligence errors and treated as civilian not war combatants, that is a problem.

When all his time is spent on health care and caps of green house emission and getting the Olympics to Chicago? That is a problem.

Most of all, when I look at the debt for future generations, it make my heart weep for future generations. Someday we might be the outsourced help desk for China and India. Sad really.

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

Hey guys, any more comments? Feed me. Feeling frisky today. :)

No, really, I am just procrastinating the planning and cleaning phase for having a bajillion eight year olds for a slumber party this week-end. Joy!

So seriously thanks for visiting and send your friends, m'kay? Y'all come back you here?

This is a pretty safe place to talk politics as parents, women, men American, Canadians, whatever and not be attacked.

Reasonable discussion.

Sadly it's what's missing now days in a land of rabblerousers, posturing, partisanship, hyperbole, mean tones and name callers.

I'd like to find a place where I can say what I think, nicely, without getting attacked if no one per se agrees with me and nor do I agree with them. Still it opens are minds to the other side.

And guess what, my friends? You succeeded. That safe place is my blog today.

Many, many thanks.

~Scout

lojbud said...

Your comment on the blame for our economic woes fails to take note of an important point that Reagan lovers, such as yourself, tend to forget. When Ronnie took office, the national debt stood at $1 trillion dollars and included all of the country's debt going back to the Revolutionary War (I'm not making this up, look it up!). When he left office he had doubled the debt! In 8 freakin' years he doubled almost 200 years of debt! His "trickle down economics" have been a disaster for this country, the Republican's (remember Phil Graham??) stripping of the regulations to the banking industry and Wall Street opened the doors to corporate plunderers of the national treasury. An idiot like George Bush spent a trillion dollars on a war that overthrew a dictator of a third rate country that offered no threat to the US, gave the richest 2 percent of the US expansive tax breaks that cost the Treasury close to another trillion in lost revenues and pushed a prescription drug plan down our throats that is a disaster!! And, in the cases of the war and the drug plan, these events weren't even on the nation's books! They were being paid for with dollars that weren't accounted for in any budget! Were the Democrats scot free of blame? Of course not! But to even begin to try and lay blame on Obama and the Dems for the absolute mismanagement and looting of this country's treasure and destruction of the middle class is the diatribe of someone that has been watching Murdock's Faux News too long! Until today, I liked some of the sappy stories you had on this blog but to make the statements you have today on this issue has crossed a line for me! Please let me know how to unsubscribe to this site as I haven't been able to find out a way to do so through searching this page.

Scout's Honor said...

One last PS:

Ignore all the egregious typos, grammatical errors, and spelling mistakes. I did not proof read until i sent them all and now I hang my head in shame.

Are=our

loose=lose

etc., etc.

You get the idea. I am usually terrible at responding (although I read everyone of your comments) so I better try to shoot out the ideas quickly. Yep, like diarrhea . Gah!

~Scout

Scout's Honor said...

Wow! Lojbud.

Way to ruin the reasonable discussion.

I in no way blamed Obama for everything. Please point to where I did.

I just said the blame goes just about everywhere. No one is blameless. From the highest elected official to the lowest worker bee with maxed credit cards and a mortgage that he could never afford.

What I did question is his year in office's accomplishments, his direction, and the fact that I believe the Massachusetts election was an indication of popular unrest with that very same direction.

I simple spoke in the post about complacency and making some what I consider wrong-headed decisions.

I spoke of celebrating returning to some more balance of power so unpopular agendas by the very people who voted these politicians in could be at least slowed down and examined.

I also denigrated Republicans pushing their moral agendas.

I spoke of wanting accountability for our tax dollars going to fat cat bankers and their bonuses even though failing on the job.

Foremost, I did not want to leave a legacy of debt and terrorism threats for our children.

Sorry if that offended you.

As for you saying, "To even begin to try and lay blame on Obama and the Dems for the absolute mismanagement and looting of this country's treasure and destruction of the middle class is the diatribe of someone that has been watching Murdock's Faux News too long!"

What are you talking about? How you read that into my words is silly. I don't speak in absolutes. I don't watch Murdock News. It was just the first clip I found on youtube.

As for sappy stories? Nice. Insults and ad hominem attacks always help an argument, don't they?

I welcome you to unsubscribe because your behavior is not in the spirit in which this post was written. While you like to twist people's word, you don't seem lacking in ability so figure it out and don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.

Sigh. Hence why people dislike discussing politics in a public forum, eh? Attack, attack, attack. Anyone else with a nice tone who disagrees with me?

Here's my deal: You don't have to agree with someone on everything to still treat their ideas with respect and like them a as person? I do it all the time. Bending. Allowing. Reaching consensus. It's what we need more of. Not deriding, ugliness, and drawing lines in the sand.

~Scout

Rajan said...

Its the same story worldwide....they are so clever and greedy that they just look and talk about their own interest......disgusting..!!!!

Katiebirds said...

You're right. Everyone is causing our economic problems.
I guess Obama just won me over. Not with his change talks. As silly and shallow as it sounds, he won me over by being, at least partially, African American. I am white, but I grew up in a small town that is more racist than it has right to be.
To me, a black president meant that this country was finally moving a little away from being racist. Even if it really was only a very tiny bit.

Either way, I just feel that it has only been one year. He still has three to pull through and accomplish something more than the race thing.

Anonymous said...

Scout, you rock!

I agree with your perspective and share it myself. Thanks for taking the time to respond to the comments & be reasonable in tone.

kl crab

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